Run for the hills

runforthehillsA RAVE about the single-minded advice of “experts”.
“Bugging out is the only way to go if you are living in a large township or city!”

Oh please do, all of you. I’ll even wave you off.
It’ll leave so much stuff for me to scavenge.

For what feels like the 99th time, I read another article telling folk that the safest place in a crisis is in the country among the birds and bees, where food is everywhere, water runs clean, and your safety a heck of a lot better than staying in “urban wonderland”.

I wonder at times if the “experts” preaching this mantra have any idea what living off the land for a protracted time is like. Let alone them having a clue about the hazards of dealing with CBRNE contamination when you haven’t got a substantial, solidly built  shelter around you.

I read about shelter being canvas basha’s, debris huts, using tents, even living in RV’s or caravans as being the way to go for everything. Food apparently is on tap fishing and hunting with all those furry meals just sitting there with neat little targets Velcro’d on their little chests.


So I’ve got a few little questions for these so-called “experts”.

WATER. Where exactly are you going to get it from and what are you going to do about any CBRNE contamination?

FOOD. Fish and furry things will keep going until they die. Soaked in chemicals, irradiated or dusted with radioactive particles, just how are you going to make such food safe. As for growing food, in contaminated soils, during a nuclear winter, without fertilizers or pest control. Good luck with that.

But it doesn’t stop there. Consider CBRNE and you.

    What is the proven way to deal with a chemical attack say mustard or sarin gas in a tent or even worse a debris hut or canvas basha?
    You sat in a wood are suddenly approached by a long column of refugees escaping from a city which was infected with cholera and dysentery, how are you going to keep them away from you, deal with your now contaminated water source they puked and toileted in, and the odd dead body?
    There was an incident where Chernobyl’s puppy went all nasty. Huge plumes of radiation are sweeping the country. What do you do to protect yourself in your little tent, RV, or whatever? Are the walls thick enough to stop the radiation? Hows about the odd “glowing in the night” refugee that approaches you, what will you do about them? Where exactly are you going to get safe, potable water from?
    Some jerk off has gone all Armageddon and is chucking nukes around. What is the radioactive and blast protection factor of a tent, RV, or debris hut? Where are you going to store the all too necessary 14 days,  3-4 liters of water per person, water in your tent, RV, or debris hut? Anyway, does fiberglass, canvas, or aluminum stop ionizing radiations?
    It’s civil war-time and the good guys are shelling the bad guys who are in return firing back. Your encampment is spotted on IR or even FLIR in a drone and you are engaged as being a possible OP. What is your protection factor of a tent, RV, or even you against modern military bombs, shells, and small arms fire?

Now wise up.
There are 5 sections there, CBRNE
Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear and Explosives.
None of which many of the “run for the hills experts” are addressing.

It’s no good you telling me you are mil trained either.
It may have been viable when you are part of the green machine, but not after you became one of the little people. Even if you still remain a weekend warrior, militia style, you simply won’t have the logistical support structure or even the man, air, or ground pounding power the military could supply anymore.

You’ll have limited transport and fuel capabilities.
As for your personal protection equipment (PPE)?
In the military you had all the ‘dubious comforts’ of full MOPP gear and a supply of detection kits, anti toxins, filters, even down to replacement suits plus the high-tech decontamination units for bulk water production.

So realistically, you and your pack, you being one of the little people, what exactly do you carry to survive long-term in a hostile environment again?

So you go and run for the hills as your standard operating practice (SOP) guys and girls. Do what the “experts” tell you to do as they know so much (not).

Bugging out MAY be a necessity. No argument about that yet it’s a judgment call not an absolute SOP as some armchair experts are pushing. Living off the land indefinitely is not just a weekend out with the boys returning Sunday night for a hot shower and the comforts of home. It’s a relentless grind.

If you leave your home, your town, or wherever, you are giving up a lot. Shelter, warmth, water, food stores, everything for the dubious safety of the “great outdoors”.

Consider also that if you need help, shelter, medical help, or supplies and you are NOT A RESIDENT OF THE AREA you may NOT BE ENTITLED to any help. Too late to go home and even if you did, what would you go back to, especially if I find your empty house stocked full of goodies.

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5 Responses to Run for the hills

  1. Another advantage about staying in your own home, it is familiar territory, you know the good, bad, safe and weak points.

  2. equippedcat says:

    Are these the same experts who say you need 10 years of food and water and millions of rounds of ammo? Do they mention how you transport all that when you bug out?

  3. gamegetterII says:

    All those people who think they are going to survive long-term by hunting and fishing are delusional at best.
    Unless you can get to what’s truly a wilderness area,one that’s not going to have thousands of people streaming into it,all with the same plan-to survive by hunting and fishing-all the fish and game will be gone very quickly.
    There’s a few people,in a few areas who will be able to survive long-term by living off the land.
    The rest of us,in most cases will be better off staying in our homes-where we will have enough food and water stored up,along with medical supplies,firearms and ammo,tools,and alternate means of heating our homes-if we live in cold climates-(it hit 2 degrees F for the high temp here today)-and generating power.
    If you bug out-you can’t take all that stuff with you,unless you have a really big truck-and if you have to leave on foot-you an take even less.
    I would prefer to stay home-but we may have to leave if too many of the inner city people head out our way.

  4. yokel. says:

    unlike America, in the UK there are very few truly “wild” places, except for maybe the Scottish Highlands, and all land is owned by someone. unless you have somewhere to go, you own it or a relative does-and they have agreed to put you up, then stay put, the only reasons you need to leave are flood, fire or its just not safe to live there anymore.
    the “die off” in the cities will be quite high once the power goes off and there is no food in the shops, your main concern will be disease and finding clean water.

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