Policing in the UK

My friend shtfprepper has a habit of making me smile and he’s outdone himself here.

He sent me a link to an NRA website. [Link]
It is soooo good, I’m printing the article.
The latest dispatch from the United Kingdom’s ongoing campaign to eliminate all forms of armed self-defense seems too incredible to be true. Unfortunately, after tracking down the origin of a publicly distributed statement regarding self-defense products on the country’s “Ask the Police” website, we can confirm that British subjects continue to live at the mercy of their potential attackers.  Even to the point of baffling absurdity.

The statement appears in the Frequently Asked Questions section of http://www.askthe.police.uk – a site that is operated by the Police National Legal Database.   Information provided by the PNLD and its site are used by local police constabularies to help inform the public.

The question at issue asks, “Are there any legal self defence products that I can buy?” Succinctly epitomizing the sad state of natural rights in Great Britain, the first sentence states, “The only fully legal self defence product at the moment is a rape alarm.”

And to add even more insult to human dignity, the statement cautions subjects against the use of nearly any other type of defense product, and reads like an appeal for victims to graciously suffer criminal violence. The answer makes clear “You must not get a product which is made or adapted to cause a person injury. Possession of such a product in public (and in private in specific circumstances) is against the law.”  So even in the sanctity of one’s home, the statement seems to suggest that care for violent offenders outweighs the rights of potential victims to be safe and secure against attack.

The statement then addresses the legality of inert dye sprays that merely mark one’s attacker for later identification; in contrast to self-defense sprays like mace or pepper spray that inflict pain in order to halt an attack. The site is so concerned with the well-being of violent criminals, that in the context of dye sprays, it states,“be aware that even a seemingly safe product, deliberately aimed and sprayed in someone’s eyes, would become an offensive weapon because it would be used in a way that was intended to cause injury.”

Whether it’s this detestable advice, police warning a woman not to display a knife in order to ward off intruders, warrantless firearm storage inspections, or desperate subjects being forced to defend their lives and property with cricket and baseball bats during riots, the UK government appears intent on wiping out any remaining vestiges of the traditional right to self-defense. We’d like to say that we won’t allow ourselves to be shocked by the next ludicrous episode from across the pond, but history shows they’ll somehow manage to astound.

Note:- At the bottom of the web page was this:
© 2015 National Rifle Association of America, Institute for Legislative Action. This may be reproduced. So I’m thinking they won’t mind me “amusing you” with this well written article.

Now my tuppence. (10 cents)
Living in the UK everything they say and more.
Here the only people carrying guns are the criminals, a few sportsmen, farmers, and the police.

As for the rest of the population?
We’ve been reduced to becoming reactive targets for the criminal element and the police to practice on.

Only it gets better. From the askthe.police.uk website, [Link] Finds this:-

Q85: What lengths can I go to, to protect my home if an intruder breaks in?

Remember we are talking about HOME INVASION here.

In the heat of the moment it is not expected that you should make fine judgements as to how far you can go. What you honestly and instinctively believe is lawful and necessary self defence of either yourself, your family or your property, even if you use a weapon could constitute reasonable force.

You do not have to be attacked first to be able to use reasonable force in self defence.

Even if the intruder dies, provided you have used reasonable force in the circumstances described then you will not necessarily be prosecuted. If, having disabled the intruder you then go on and inflict further punishment then this would be deemed to be excessive and gratuitous force and you could be prosecuted.

Now I highlighted the even if you use a weapon could constitute reasonable force for a reason as it mentions “a weapon”.

In the advice above it clearly says:-
“be aware that even a seemingly safe product, deliberately aimed and sprayed in someone’s eyes, would become an offensive weapon because it would be used in a way that was intended to cause injury.”  They are talking about marker dye.

So where does that leave the average person.
Stop an attack using a weapon gets you charged as you used a weapon in a way that was intended to cause injury.

And to think people actually WANT to emigrate to here.

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5 Responses to Policing in the UK

  1. shtfprepper says:

    It is just… unfathomable. We recently had an elected official propose legislation that would require people to buy liability insurance before they buy a firearm. Part of her rhetoric says that (and I’m paraphrasing) liability insurance has caused less vehicle fatalities because people drive safe when they have insurance, so liability insurance on owning firearms should have the same result.

    From an article whose origin I cannot remember
    ” House Democrat Rep. Carolyn Maloney (N.Y.) has introduced a bill that would require gun owners to carry liability insurance.
    The Firearm Risk Protection Act, unveiled Friday, would require gun buyers to have liability insurance coverage before being allowed to purchase a weapon, and would impose a fine of $10,000 if an owner is found not to have it.
    “We require insurance to own a car, but no such requirement exists for guns,” Maloney said in a statement. “The results are clear: car fatalities have declined by 25 percent in the last decade, but gun fatalities continue to rise.”

    Guess what I think of that!

  2. Brittius says:

    In 1975, when England had voted to give up their gun rights, I was shocked. Now, the “Asian Baboon”, is a species multiplying like rabbits, and causing all manor of: Murder, Rape, Arson, Burglary, Assault, Kidnap, Robbery, to name but a few. The generation that went through WW1 and WW2, were tired of guns, as guns were associated with war, and I can sympathize with the elders. Today, if the British people do not pull the politicians’ heads out of their arses, in a few short years, all of England, will, be lost!

    • Too late my friend, all is already lost. and no never give up my gun rights!

      They were taken from me by the actions of limp dick politicians, neurotic mothers, and other assorted idiots.

      Then, when handguns were banned, my trusty inventory went to Holland to a gun club. It was either that or watch perfectly good weapons being destroyed to appease the sheeple.

  3. I carry lethal weapons in my pocket every day……… they’re called car keys.
    I’m waiting for someone to say that the dog’s poo bags are smothering tools.

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